Hayali Cemaatler: Milliyetçiliğin Kökenleri ve Yayılması

Hayali Cemaatler: Milliyetçiliğin Kökenleri ve Yayılması

Benedict Anderson İskender Savaşır / Sep 21, 2019

Hayali Cemaatler Milliyet ili in K kenleri ve Yay lmas Bug n i inde ya ad m z d nya bir uluslar sistemidir ok de il yaln zca y l nce bug n varolan ulusal devletlerin yar s bile hen z ortada yoktu Son iki y zy ld r milyonlarca insan kendi uluslar na

  • Title: Hayali Cemaatler: Milliyetçiliğin Kökenleri ve Yayılması
  • Author: Benedict Anderson İskender Savaşır
  • ISBN: 9789753420266
  • Page: 314
  • Format: Paperback
  • Bug n i inde ya ad m z d nya bir uluslar sistemidir ok de il, yaln zca 150 y l nce, bug n varolan ulusal devletlerin yar s bile hen z ortada yoktu Son iki y zy ld r milyonlarca insan, kendi uluslar na olan ba l l klar nedeniyle ba kalar na kin ve d manl k besledi, farkl ulustan insanlar katletti Bu bir yana, insanlar bile bile l me gidecek kadar fedakar k lanBug n i inde ya ad m z d nya bir uluslar sistemidir ok de il, yaln zca 150 y l nce, bug n varolan ulusal devletlerin yar s bile hen z ortada yoktu Son iki y zy ld r milyonlarca insan, kendi uluslar na olan ba l l klar nedeniyle ba kalar na kin ve d manl k besledi, farkl ulustan insanlar katletti Bu bir yana, insanlar bile bile l me gidecek kadar fedakar k lan bu ba l l , bir ulusa ait olma duygusunu nas l anlayabiliriz Benedict Anderson, milliyet i siyasal hareketler zerine yap lm o u al man n sormad bir soruya yan t ar yor Uluslar n do u unu ve geli imini, dinsel cemaatlerle, hanedanl klar n k yle, kapitalizm ve yay nc l n geli mesi, resmi devlet dillerinin olu umu ve zaman kavray m z n de i mesiyle ili kilendiriyor Ulusu, kan ba ve din gibi eski tip cemmatlerin yerin alan hayal edilmi bir toplulk olarak ele alan yazar, milliyet ili in, ilk kez Amerika da ortaya kt ktan sonra emperyallist g ler ve nihayet nc d nya n n anti emperyalist m cadeleleri taraf ndan kopyalan p o alt labilir bir model olu turdu unu savunuyor nsanl ve co rafyay ulusal s n rlara b lerek, herbiri kendinin en eski ve en k kl oldu unu iddia eden ve s rekli d d manlara kar bir biz kimli iyle kendilerini me rula t ran ulus devletlerden kurtulmak m mk n m Anderson, ulus ve milliyet ilik zerine, resmi tarihten gelen nyarg lar m z ve inan lar m z sarsacak ve yeniden d nmemizi sa layacak tezleriyle, ilgiyle okunacak bir tarih sunuyor bize

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      • Benedict Anderson İskender Savaşır

        Benedict Richard O Gorman Anderson is Aaron L Binenkorb Professor Emeritus of International Studies, Government Asian Studies at Cornell University, and is best known for his celebrated book Imagined Communities, first published in 1983 Anderson was born in Kunming, China, to James O Gorman Anderson and Veronica Beatrice Bigham, and in 1941 the family moved to California In 1957, Anderson received a Bachelor of Arts in Classics from Cambridge University, and he later earned a Ph.D from Cornell s Department of Government, where he studied modern Indonesia under the guidance of George Kahin He is the brother of historian Perry Anderson.


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    1. UPDATED: Amazing how reading this for a different class brought out a totally different discussion. The last class I read this for was called "Uses of History in International Affairs," and we spent the majority of our time talking about history as an act- history as narrative, history as an agenda, what someone might use these statements for. We were essentially diplomats in discussion, preparing our strategy of attack against the other side's claims. I don't think we discussed the validity of [...]


    2. شهرتُه تتكلّمُ عنه أكثر منّي هذا الكتاب أحد أهمّ الكتب التي شغلت علماء الاجتماع و السياسة في العقود الأخيرة رغم أنّه لا يزيد على 200 صفحة .يقدّم الكتاب نظريّة جديدة في نشوء القوميّة كجماعة متخيّلة , و عوامل و ظروف نشأة هذا التخيّل من الحروب و الأنظمة الكولونياليّة إلى سكّان ال [...]


    3. So the big idea here is that nations are limited and sovereign entities, with power over a limited territory, but also that they are 'imagined', or socially constructed through the print media. This needs no real introduction, and most can get away with only reading the title and subtitle.Such a thesis no doubt appears quaint to some twenty years later, with electronic media surpassing dead-trees-and-pulp non-fiction. It might be easy to dismiss the whole thing as obsolete, with the wonders of t [...]


    4. One of my longstanding grievances with the public education system is its approach to geography. The jigsaw of nations most children are taught comprise the world is essentially posited as something timeless and ineffable, while in reality are they all very historically recent not to mention ephemeral and in most cases pretty arbitrary. Benedict Anderson does a great job of deconstructing nationalism (not that hard), but much more importantly rebuilding how national consciousness, "imagined comm [...]


    5. Anderson has a good point about how language and the collapse of religious absolutism created nationalism but he fails on two points. First his language is haughty and over the top, including references to obscure stuff. I got most of them but others will be lost. Second he fails to elaborate on other things that caused nationalism to rise, such as technology, revolution, ideology, and warfare. Instead it is mostly presented as a matter of language and media. Also whenever he steps out of the la [...]


    6. A hugely influential work, first published in 1983, which delineates the 'processes by which the nation came to be imagined, and, once imagined, modelled, adapted and transformed.' Anderson is an expert on Southeast Asia, and thus manages very successfully to avoid a purely Euro-centric view. Another extremely successful aspect of this work is the structure: each chapter ends with a succinct summary of its main ideas, a boon for those who need to take notes and revise what they've read, or indee [...]


    7. Asserted as a Marxist text, Anderson attempts to revise readings of the development of nationalism in attempt to sort out the possibilities its offers for a Marxist agenda. Most importantly, Anderson defines the nation as 1) sovereign, 2) limited, and 3) fraternal. He sees the nation as a structural form of collective imagination that works to cohere through the rise of print capitalism (specifically mass-marketed news media and novels, but one could easily add photography to this list) and the [...]


    8. اللغة المحلية، تراجع الدين، تراجع السلطة، الاستعمار، المصلحة، استخدامها كأداة، هذه الأسباب التي كانت وراء نشأة القوميات، التي يدلل لها أندرسن في كتابه الثقيل مضمونًا قليل الصفحات من خلال تحليل أوضاع دول شرق آسيا وأمريكا الأسبانية، وأوروبا بكل تأكيد.يغيب على أندرسن تحليل [...]


    9. Boy, am I glad to have finally read this. Imagined Communities is the force behind much of the scholarship in the social sciences I find most interesting. Seeing someone’s name so often in brackets (Anderson, 1983) makes you curious, and Anderson does not disappoint.For me, this is history at its most interesting—incisive, global in scope, entertaining, and not overladen with facts. Staying entirely within the purview and methodology of the discipline of history (unlike, say, Guns, Germs, an [...]


    10. This is a very important, but difficult read. Even though the author mentions that he did not want to introduce any academic lingo, it is still difficult to comprehend at times, and the academic structure is obvious. It will truly make you think about history in a novel way once you do understand what is being described. However, the chapter on the Map, Census and Museum was the hardest to comprehend. Of course, the fact that so many themes in the book were hard to understand only goes to show h [...]


    11. هذا الكتاب استغرق مني وقتا لطويلا لقراءته، يتجاوز الشهر بقليل.لم تكن صعوبة الكتاب هي سبب تأخير القراءة. ربما لأنني تعرفت إلى لعبة سباق السيارات "إسفلت 8"، فشغلني هذا عنه، أو لأن كل فكرة -رغم بساطة عرضها- تحتاج إلى وقت طويل لهضمها واستيعابها.بلغت شهرة الكتاب الآفاق، وصار مقررا [...]


    12. بدأت في قراءة هذا الكتاب وفي ذهني أنه يبحث في سؤال كيف يتم تخيل المجتمعات، أي أنه بحث في الصورة النمطية للشعوب كما درسها إدوارد سعيد وانطوني موريسون وفرانز فانون أو تسري هناء في الشرق المتخيل او محمد أفاية في الغرب المتخيل.إلا انني تفاجأت ويا لجمال المفاجأة أنه بحث في نشأة فك [...]


    13. اسم الكتاب رائع مرهق رغم صغر عدد صفحاته مقدمة لعزمى بشاره محتاجة 3 فنجاين من القهوة ديكتاب لوحدها نيجي للكتاب الاصلي اتكلم عن الحواجز اللي تجاوزتهم البشرية علشان توصل للشكل القوميحاجز الدولة الدينية و الدولة السلالية اخيراً مفهوم وتصور الزمن بعد كده الكاتب بينتقل لتفسير ال [...]



    14. Since there has been a good deal of chattering about nationalism of late, it seemed a good time to finally examine this neglected long-term resident on my bookshelves. It is a tough slog through impenetrable Marxist jargon and apparent inside jokes. Also, there are enough dense and eye-strain-inducing footnotes in my paperback copy to send David Foster Wallace weeping to his thesaurus collection. And, in addition to untranslated French and German, there is, I am not making this up, untranslated [...]


    15. كنت قد كتبت هذا التعليق في 2010، وكنت وقتها اتعمد كتابة تعليقات لا ريفيوهات حتى أتحاشي إن الناس تعمل لايك وكنت وقتها أظن أنه ليس هو الموضوع عمل لايك، بل القراءة وتبادل القراءة وفقط ولأن دائرة الأصدقاء وقتها كانت محدودة، فكنا نتبادل الأفكار وعروض الكتب وترشيحات القراءة كنت أري [...]


    16. الانتشار الواسع للكتاب عالميا وترجمته للكثير من اللغات أمر يدل على أن هذا الموضوع ( القومية ) ما زال يحتاج إلى الداراسة من قبل المفكرين ، ويدل على أن نهم المعرفة حول الأمر كبير ، وهو أمر يستحقفى مقدمة الكتاب تقديم عربى يعتبر كتابا مستقلا مميزا لا يمكن تجاهله كجزء نم المؤلفيشر [...]


    17. Definitely an 'essential read', but did his style have to be so annoying? "Unjungled," Benedict? "Museumized?" Those aren't words. Not cute, either. Stop with the scare quotes, too, jeez. And would you translate your goddamn lengthy French quotations??? GOD.


    18. On December 13, 2015, Indonesia expert and history scholar Benedict Anderson passed away in Malang (Indonesia). A lot of obituaries in his honor appeared in traditional press and online media. When I read his life story, I was very impressed by his study of Indonesia (esp. regarding the 1965 incident, which led to him being banned from entering Indonesia for over 20 years) and his abilities to speak so many languages! His best-known work is Imagined Communities, where he discusses the origins of [...]


    19. What makes this text well worth reading are his intriguing examples and the methodical way he develops his highly original yet relatively straight forward argument. What I found particularly useful were his marxist explanation for how print capital helped create conditions for a nation as an imagined community, his exposition of the fact that nationalism developed in the Americas before Europe, and the wonderful way he shows how colonial administration and education sowed the seeds of rebellion [...]


    20. As the original text on nationalism as an idea, you would think that this would be a better read. Indeed, the plethora of translations that the author catalogs in the Afterword written for this expanded edition, you would think it would be best thing on nationalism ever. And while it does have a few great ideas, it is a barely developed, almost completely nonsensical book. The first few chapters start out alright as he identifies native languages, bueracratic language requirements, and revolutio [...]


    21. A very impressive work on both a research and theoretical level. The syntheses that Anderson generates manage to cut through hundreds of years of history and thousands of miles of geography to create a cohesive, cogent approach that, fairly uniquely among works of this sort, manages to privilege neither time nor space. Well done.


    22. Argues clearly and poetically that identities are constructed through shared media. Examines how newspapers and other media create a shared identity with people never met.Pros: Excellent writing, clear argument, and historical evidence (almost exclusively) from the Spanish-speaking world.


    23. إن الكتابة التي تقول عن أفكار مهمة وذكية بلغة مباشرة وسهلة، بلا تقعر أو تذاك أو بهرجة لغوية، وتصيب هذه الأفكار كما يجب، من دون تقصير أو تسطيح، لكفيلة بعدل مزاجي لأيام. كتاب ممتاز.


    24. After making an effort to summarise this book, I am not convinced that I can defend all of its arguments, which on balance must reflect on me rather than the book. Apart from anything else, I am not prepared to put in the time; I write a review quickly when I finish a book only to convey my immediate impression. It is nicely written, very well organised and very credible. I suspect, though, that it presents its arguments in a form that requires a lot of elaboration before they will convince a sc [...]


    25. Patraukliu stiliumi parašyta knyga apie nacionalizmo ir apskritai tautos idėjos atsiradimą. --Tais klausimais, kur kažką jau truputį žinojau, atrodė, kad autorius labai supaprastina dalykus. Tais klausimais, kuriais nieko nežinojau, atrodė, pateikia nuostabių įžvalgų. Bet pirmoji sąlyga šiek tiek trukdė žavėtis antrąja. Kita vertus, imant tokią plačią temą apibendrinimų ir supaprastinimų neišvengsi, o idėja apie tautos sąvokos kūrimąsi įdomi.


    26. كتاب يستحق شهرته، بما يضيفه من تحليل ومعلومات في سبيل فهم ظاهرة القوميةيبدأ الكتاب بمقدمة رائعة لعزمي بشارة، تعتبر كتاب منفصل إذا جاز التعبير، فيها يثني عليه، ثم ينعطف إلى نقد قوي لبعض ما ورد في الكتاب، ويتركز في أمرين، قصور الكتاب في تناول الظاهرة عربياً، وأيضاً عدم تفرقته [...]


    27. My professor promised that this would be an easy read, because of the (apparently) lucid language, but I cannot really claim the same. The myriad of unknown references makes this far from an easy read. Things are just said assuming the reader knows about everything that's being talked about.Imagined Communities is without doubt a seminal text. Anderson tries to explain the idea of nations and nationalism and lays out various models to do so. I don't want to say anything more about this, because [...]


    28. I first heard about Benedict Anderson's seminal study of nationalism, Imagined Communities, from a newspaper article in The Bangkok Post while on vacation in Thailand a few years back. It's not such an unlikely place to hear about Anderson since it turns out that he is somewhat of an expert on SE Asian countries. It seems that he has made his name studying Indonesia, but he has also published widely on Thailand and the Philippines including the intriguing title, In the Mirror: Literature and Pol [...]


    29. What a cool book. I'm really turning around on my whole "no non fiction" bent. Anderson's language is great and his themes are straightforward and shifted a few paradigms for me.The idea of "imagined communities" is one of those genius things that seems so obvious once it's been said. Like a "why didn't I think of that?" kind of deal. It's also eloquently stated and supported throughout the rest of the text. Nationalism is kind of weird to think about in this context. Think about the kind of pre [...]


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